You’ve heard of the Pimps of the Houston Beltway right? I’m talking about I. V. and Bridgette Hilliard. They run a scam, dressed up like a church, down in Houston Texas. Several years ago they had a most excellent idea: throw a birthday party for First Lady/Co-pastor/Whatever-She-Is Bridgette and rake in a whole lot of money from the sycophants. She even provided a list of preferred gifts.
From the photos and some of the first-hand accounts of the shindig, things went rather well. A lot of people paid to see them and be seen with them. To add to the value, the now-Apostle Fred Price was there and available for souvenir photos.
Not one to let a good idea go to waste, Dr. Medina Pullings, operating out of Richmond Virginia, has announced a birthday celebration. Take a look at a screen shot of the “invite”. She even gives the sheeple the opportunity to, how does she phrase it? give an on-line love offering or even bring a present.
First, just a couple of questions.
1. What has she done that we should celebrate her life? Have you heard her…Holy Ghost Powered…preaching? Click here and give it a listen.
2. Why not celebrate Elizabeth Elliot’s life? Don’t know Elizabeth Eliott? Click on her name. Why not celebrate the life of Stephen, you know, one of the deacons who was stoned for presenting the Gospel to a bunch of stiff-necked religionists.
There are tons of women out there who are women of God, whose lives have made a difference in the Kingdom. Some we know of, some we don’t. We could start with Phoebe (Romans 16) and move all the way forward to Edith Schaeffer and others. But Medina? Again, what has she done?
Rather than a woman of God, she is quite simply candy of Eye.
Her preaching is, at best, vacuous. She gives more attention to her appearance than she apparently does to the word of God. And let’s face it, she got her doctorate from Pimp U. The following photo shows you some of the fine pimps preachers who have graduated from that fine institution for the mere price of $3600 dollars. A good pimp can collect that much during high praise with no problem. And yes, the banner is virtually a who’s who of pimps and pimpettes.
Bottom line, she is a pimpette out to get as much as she can from the foolish sheeple as possible.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. If any of you want to bless me with a love offering, say a 2012 Cessna with a glass panel or even a used SR-20, be my guest. My Vastly Overpriced Webmaster hasn’t quite figured out the on-line giving thing, but that’s fine. You can send all love offerings to:
Melvin Jones
12456 Anathema Lane
Bowie, MD 20876
None of the gifts are tax deductible (yet). But I promise you you’ll get a powerful blessing from Gawd if you give to the Mand of Gawd (i.e. me).
Tags: birthday, Bridgette, I. V. Hilliard, pimpette, pulling
February 27, 2012 at 4:29 pm |
Interesting! I have never heard of her before this post. I just looked at her website, on the main page, the background pic or art is drawn in such a way to make her look like an angel (angel wings)…I find that a bit scary. She is pretty glammed up…
Not sure what to make of her but I dont get a holy/spiritual vibe about her…she seems very common and hoodish (she has so many fashion pics up of herself and even pair of shoes…huh?).
(MN: She and her husband, Bishop Pulling, have been around for at least the last four years or so. I suspect they are in the process of trying to go big time. She and her husband almost have the “I’m anointed” schtick down. She is able to preach nonsense and people will listen and mistake it for insight. They’ve moved to the next stage – convincing people to give them money just because because they’re them. I see great things for them. They should be functioning at the level of I. V. and Bridgette Hilliard within the next couple of years. I’m assuming the “hood glam” look will be growing less noticeable. )
February 29, 2012 at 4:54 am |
looked at their sites and came to the conclusion that they certainly would not be out of place in show time at one of the glitzy casinos in Vegas. The poses and poutings of their lips, their sartorial elegance reeks $$$$$$$$$…. I wonder if the sanctuary is the same. Maybe their webmaster is on commission of the overall take.
March 1, 2012 at 8:13 pm |
I was wondering when you’d put something out on “Funky-Cold ” Medina Pullings. Her and her knock-off “Baby Phat-Farm” clothing lines are truly something…
March 4, 2012 at 7:56 pm |
I had never heard of this woman either. So I started checking out the You Tube videos of her on TBN. She’s an attractive woman and charismatic so it would be easy for someone who doesn’t know the Word to be swayed. What really bothers me is their church’s website. When you go to the section on their “mission” statement and scroll down to Agreement, they actually quote Genesis 11:6 in reference to their building the International Harvest Dome. As I’m reading it, I’m like wait a minute isn’t that about the Tower of Babel? Sure enough I open my Bible and it is. So are they saying the mission of their church is to rebuild Babel (Babylon)? I can’t help but wonder if they’re that stupid or truly evil or both (MN: Good catch. Probably both. ). SMH…my people perish for lack of knowledge.
January 6, 2013 at 2:09 pm |
These are not God’s (Yahweh) people
March 27, 2012 at 1:50 pm |
Oh my Goodness, I just read the mission statement with Gen 11:6 God was not proud of their accomplishment the next verse clearly states that The Lord confused the people because of what they were doing. If you read the entire chapter there is no way that this should be applied to anything that should glorify God. I pray this was an error.
April 4, 2012 at 2:17 pm |
We are called to do the will of the father like Jesus said,I came to do my Father’s will! Let the political position,Theology and scams be what they are! I came to seek and to save that which is lost not to expose.This is distracting from the business of theb true church!
(MN Interesting. We are called to do the will of the Father. The Father tells us we are to call out the pimps [Romans 16:17]. That is the will of the Father. We are told to identify the wolves. That is the will of the Father. I suggest you try to base your statements on what Scripture [all of Scripture] says. Of course, that means you have to actually study the Bible. Oh, and that gets back to theology. Tough break there dude. )
April 4, 2012 at 2:20 pm |
They are men and women capable of human error and lack of sound judgment at times. Keep your eyes on Christ the Savior and he will reveal those things that are untrue in his time. We are call to do work and to bear fruits .To bring those that are lost to Christ. Not to hate on ministers!
(MN: It’s nice to see the Knee Jerk Reacters are back and commenting. No one is hating on the people. I have accurately presented what they are saying and comparing what they say to Scripture. Please tell me how that is hating. If a man preaches a heresy are we to simply sit back and keep quiet? Can we do that if we are to be obedient to Scripture (oops!!! I guess that goes back to theology. Doesn’t it? )
January 6, 2013 at 2:12 pm |
MN: dead men can not understand spiritual things (period)
April 4, 2012 at 2:22 pm |
Darkness always support darkness because it is to its advantage but the church exposes and weakens it position in the world by those that are to hold it up. Let restore and not tear down!
(MN: So let me make sure I understand what you are saying. It’s better to keep silent while Copeland, Jakes, and others PUBLICLY preach a false gospel and mislead people than it is to correct Copeland and company PUBLICLY and expose the folks who are listening to the TRUE Gospel. Explain to me how it’s better to leave the listeners in darkness. I’m just not seeing it.
DO you really think Jakes is looking to be restored? How about Copeland? Do you think he hasn’t been talked to before? Do you really think he and Creflo Dollar are interested in the true Gospel at the cost of their homes, airplanes, and privileges?
And how do they represent the church with the gross error and heresy they promote? )
January 6, 2013 at 2:35 pm |
@MN: 2 thess 2:10-13 “And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion that they should believe a lie: 12 That they ALL might be damned who believe not the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness. 13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to GOD for you brethren beloved of The Lord because GOD hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth.
) Jesus told the Pharisees publicly who was their father the devil, and called them vipers… You have been kind in comparison
April 5, 2012 at 2:40 pm |
Trying to offer some understanding to those that are closed minded ,is like trying to run into a brick wall to get on the other side of it. (MN: I agree. I offered you Scripture and you ignored it. You come back with subjective condemnations [why you want to call me close minded. Why in the world would you not look to yourself and ask: "If Melvin presents me Scripture, why I do not explain to him how he is mis-using it?"] Instead you talk vaguely about close mindedness and brick walls. If you don’t have something from Scripture, on what do you base your statements? On what basis are you telling me I’m close minded. What am I being close minded about? WHat truth (from Scripture) is the symbolic brick wall keeping me from getting to? )
If you have an idea about religion and preachers then there is probably no way someone is going to change it. (MN: Are you saying the preachers I discuss are obedient to Scripture? Or are you saying Scripture says we shouldn’t say anything publicly about the actions or teachings of the preachers? Either way, I expect you to support which ever position you hold from Scripture. Otherwise, you should simply admit that your statements are nothing more than your unsupported opinions. )
Most of our misconceptions are based on bad personal experiences, which is a poor foundation to begin any reasonable argument! (MN: And of course, at this point you get to tell me what the misconceptions are. So far, you have done nothing more than object to what is being done and said. You have given no support [other than some vague touchy-feely sophisms] for your position. Or is your position the right one simply because you hold it? )
April 5, 2012 at 2:42 pm |
Search your heart and if you find there is any wicked way therein, pray that God will lead you in the way of everlasting truth. We can’t fix or help those that we condemn. Preachers are human and less respected than most! Deserving or not is not for me to say.
(MN: So child molesting preachers shouldn’t be called out? Preachers who say there is no Hell should not be called out? Preachers who claim to speak for God (just like the prophets in the Old Testament) shouldn’t be called out? Are you saying that no matter a preacher does, no one should say anything at all and just “leave it in God’s hands since he belongs to God”? Is that what you are saying? On what do you base such an approach? )
April 5, 2012 at 2:46 pm |
Were you assigned to correct and to call out all the Preachers that are wrong? (MN: Yes. And so are you. [Romans 16:17, Galatians 2:11; and lots of other places]. )
Is this your ministry? If so I just can’t see how it serves to help and deliver those that are in need. Meaning ,Jesus call us to attend to the hunger, poor, sick and imprisoned! (MN: No, he doesn’t. He calls us to preach the gospel and to make disciples. He calls us to care for fellow Christians. He calls us to edify each other. He does not call us to feed the generic poor. If you insist that he does, please show me where he does that. And please, don’t go to the section that talks about the least of my brothers. That isn’t telling us we should feed the hungry. )
Preachers are God’s business! Do ours and let God do his! And throwing scriptures at me won’t help. That’s what preachers do,remember? (MN: Actually, what the pimps do is twist the scriptures to their own advantage. They feed off of us. And it’s folks who don’t know the scriptures, and who insist that we not use the Scripture (like you) who enable the Pimps in their distortions and pimping. )
January 6, 2013 at 2:39 pm |
Melvin Amen!!!
April 5, 2012 at 11:28 pm |
Titus 3:10-11 (KJV)
A man that is an heretic after the first and second admonition reject;
Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself.
keep up exposing the lies of these heretic’s. God Bless.
April 6, 2012 at 9:23 am |
You can find a scripture to support any position you want to take in your thinking. That’s what the preachers and all other teachers so cleverly do! It’s an old trick! It’s been used to justify everything from murder to hate. You are putting words together (wordy) .That tells me that you read alot.So what! So do I .I just try to practice and live what I believe not try to prove God to others. You would make a good preacher,really! You say a lot that mean nothing in comparsion to your personal connection to your faith!
(MN: On what do you base what you believe? How do you support whatever position you hold? Did Jesus suffer in hell for our sins? How do you know He didn’t? Is it important to defend His death on the cross? How do you know it’s important? Who is asking you to “prove God? to others? As for that last sentence – - Huh? Do you understand that doctrinally, you are making no sense whatsoever? Given the things you have been saying, how do you even know you are a Christian? What do you base that belief on? Feelings? )
April 6, 2012 at 2:57 pm |
Finally I hear at least a real question of faith concerning ones Christianity,the suffering and death of Jesus for our sins and living a life enpowered by the Spirit of Christ. NOT what preachers do or how they go about earning their money! Stay focus and look to Christ as the author and finisher of our faith !
I am not here to judge another man’s action or motives. And I won’t seek out scriptures to help me do so. We have a lot of praying to do to move beyond what appear to be personal issues and not Christ-centered!
(MN: You should be here to judge another man’s actions and motives since that is exactly what Scripture (you know, that stuff you don’t want to use to judge another man’s actions) tell us to do. And you still have not addressed the statements I made earlier.
Talk about talking to a brick wall. Nothing I have said about these men are “personal issues.” They are DOCTRINAL issues. The Trinity is not a personal issue. Consorting with those who promote Oneness is not a personal issue.
I will continue (for a while) to post your insipid comments. But please don’t expect me to spend any time or effort responding to them. You appear to be one who is more interested in following a feeling and personal version of Christ than you are in following the Christ of the Bible. You bring up Biblical concepts (the author and finisher of our faith) but you don’t have anything approaching the Christian context to use it in.
I really feel quite sorry for you. You have lots of experience, lots of religious words to say. But you have none of the power of Christ in your life. You apparently have none of the assurance of having the Christ of the Bible in your life.
I truly do pity you. You are like a rudderless ship in the ocean – you have nothing with which to steer and even worse, no mark to steer toward.
It’s been interesting (if depressing) to talk to you, but don’t expect anything else from me. If any of the other readers wish to contribute – - knock yourselves out. )
April 7, 2012 at 10:21 am |
The word Trinity is NOT in the scripture! The term was derived from the early Roman Catholic church> God never used such term to indentify himself. His the I AM. He is God,period! You are like an ant arguning about an elephant! It serves no purpose.
We are not here to debate and to show each other who is correct and who is wrong.We are here to apply understanding to our lives that others may be blessed through us.
By the way,I will not stoop as low as to doubt your power or relationship In Christ. That is where the problems like these start,Theology BS!
April 7, 2012 at 10:47 pm |
Tonne, dude, you seem to talk in circles. If I could ask one solid question, it would, I think, help out in the conversation: What is “theology”? Can you give us (or at least me) a definition?
January 6, 2013 at 2:47 pm |
Matt 12:34 You brood of vipers how can you who are evil say anything good? For out of the overflow of the mouth the heart speaks. That’s how Melvin can doubt your power and relationship!
April 8, 2012 at 9:25 am |
My definition is simple.Jesus died for our sins. Except a man be born again he can not see the kingdom of God. God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son. He lives in me through the Holy Spirit! All other debates and religious preaching pointing,you can have! I serve a risen Christ! Ifollow him as I minister to the needs and healing of others! NOT TOO THEOLOGICAL OR RELIGIOUS OR INTELLECTUAL but it works and its real!
April 8, 2012 at 12:55 pm |
Yes, you’re right. He didn’t define theology. He simply gave you some of the doctrines he holds to.
April 8, 2012 at 1:11 pm |
Okay, going back to your theology comment (which, again, simply means “study of God…just so we are clear): How are those things not matters of theology? Let us look at them:
“Jesus died for our sins”– Agreed, which is plainly listed in Scripture. Now, would you disagree with someone who said that Jesus did not die for our sins, or that Jesus did not physically die for our sins? Would you say that his theology was bad? Would you rebuke him and call him out for being unbiblical?
“Except a man be born again he cannot see the Kingdom of God”–Agreed, once again, plainly listed in Scripture (John 3, I believe). Would you call someone unbiblical if they said that a man can enter the Kingdom without being born again?
“For God so loved the World He gave His only begotten Son”–Man, right, once again…but what if someone said that Jesus was not God’s Son, but rather just a really good man and a great teacher? Would you consider their theology as being wrong?
I will stop right there. Again, here is my ORIGINAL question: Without simply using examples (which is really all you did), could you DEFINE theology for us? If you hate something you should, at least, know what you hate.
April 8, 2012 at 2:43 pm |
Nothing in the point you are making gives evidence to your attack on preachers and their method of biblical pratices in the church.These men all teach the death burial and resurrection of Christ which is the central message of Christianity. Everything else is argumentative theology! Which is no more than religious dogma,which cause wars and division throughout history!
April 8, 2012 at 11:50 pm
Oh.For.The.Love! WHAT is theology?? You say you do not like theology…I give you what theology is–THE ACTUAL MEANING OF THE WORD–and you still cannot tell me what theology is.
So…everything else is simply argumentative? What about the Trinity? Is that argumentative? You say that the life, death and resurrection of Christ are the only things that matter. But that informs everything else in the Christian life. Anyway, once again, WHAT IS THEOLOGY?
(MN: CJ, CJ! Don’t bust a gut. My man is somewhere out near Pluto on this, and, I suspect, most thoelogical issues. He likely is a “I just want to know Jesus, and Him crucified” kind of guy. As long as you say the same words and don’t insist he say anything that can be tied to living (e.g. does he oppose living together without the benefit of marriage? Does he think homosexuality is acceptable? On what basis does he reject or accept either of these?) I doubt he can address these or even more difficult questions at all. Because he just wants to know Jesus. )
April 9, 2012 at 10:42 am
You are going around in circles with your “theo” stuff. It is no more than an interpetation of the scripture based on one’s denomination and religion. It is not found as a biblical word in scripture. Neither is Trinity as I told you before. God never called himself a trinity, man did!
The word is what the word said on issues regarding homosexuality and Gay marriage (MN: And what does it say about those things? Specifically? ). So there is no need to argue the point, is there? If you want to use the word to beat up on people and justify your own position then go ahead. (MN: How else do you determine your position? ) But that was never Jesus intent nor is it the will of God. I came to seek and to save that which is lost! The Christian life is about restoring and making whole that which is broken. And from personal experience that’s a far better way to live than to wear a crown of one’s own ego!
April 9, 2012 at 10:54 am
By the way folks. Please notice that Tonne indeed did not address the more difficult issues. He just brushed them aside with an “it says what it says…” Very clever that Tonne.
April 9, 2012 at 11:15 am
More difficult issues? Difficult for you or God? The word is clear on what is written concering all issues.There are no difficult issues with God.You break one commandment as it was once said ,then you are guilty of the whole! Who can call one sin more difficult than the other but men! God see things differently.
The only difficulities we have is the debate and in-house fighting we do because we wish to enforce our teachings on others. God can deal with each of us as he will. Mine is just to follow Christ and be an example that others may come to know it. (MN: See? I told you he has a “I Just Want to Know Jesus” theology. ) It’s simple. Religion and chruch dogma make it DIFFICULT!
(MN: After this plum of a response, I do believe we have enough material here for the posting I said I would do. I tell you people, I can’t make this kind of stuff up. This man is about as clueless as my two-year old grandson. Of course, he has an excuse – he’s only two years old. )
April 9, 2012 at 2:28 pm
ANd then they resort to name calling1 The same pattern of organized religious behavior.It have not changed!
April 9, 2012 at 12:28 pm
Tonne,
I do not think a comment will nest any more under your last one. You are correct when you say the Bible does not use the word “trinity” specifically. There is a reason for that:
Everyone (every Christian, at least) knew that God the Father was God; they knew that Jesus was God; they knew the Spirit was God. They also knew, however, that there was only one God. They knew that all 3 were simultaneously God. They did not argue the point. However, step into the future a few centuries, people started to throw several unbiblical ideas into the ring, so they (biblical Christians) needed to go through Scripture, show that all three were God equally, but there was only one God. In doing so they created a new word: Trinity. So, no, the WORD ITSELF is not found in Scripture…HOWEVER, the truth behind the word is seen from Genesis to Revelation.
April 8, 2012 at 9:33 am |
(MN: I know I said I wouldn’t say anything, but Tonne is absolutely fascinating in the depth to which he is deceived. I don’t think I’ve run across someone this far afield in the almost six years I’ve been doing the site. In fact, I’ve decided to make this exchange and the implications it has for inattention to doctrine a post in and of itself. It should be out in a couple of days. Stand by. But until then, read the following and weep for the men and women who have zeal but no knowledge Romans 10:2 – For I testify about them that they have a zeal for God, but not in accordance with knowledge )
The organized Black church has not changed much from Slavery when it comes to the “Big House” mentality. Those that are closer to Master always want to point fingers and tell on the field workers! And don’t let one achieve more than the other or do something that represent progress. Then he is seen as crooks, suspictious and uppidity-acting!
(MN: So who is the boss that I’m closer to? This seems like something of a non sequitur. )
It has been the way of White America to castrate the black man.First from his mate then through his education ,pride and dignity.There is no better way to kill a black man and his dream than through the church and his God.
This has always been the foundation of his strength. And thus we have women filling the churches and men are leaving ! The black preacher is being assaulted among his race and people! We claim to do good but the shadows of evil paints the motives of our heart. We are victims of our own success!
(MN: So you say people like Noel Jones, T. D. Jakes, Creflo Dollar and those of their ilk are actually doing Blacks good? In what way are they a benefit to Blacks? )
April 8, 2012 at 12:47 pm |
See, CJ. I told you it was your fault.
April 8, 2012 at 12:56 pm |
Thank You! All Christ said is when I stand before hi he will ask did I feed the poor,clothe the naked and visit the imprisoned! I will replay yes! For as much as you done it unto the least of mine,youve done it unto me. Any other religiousity and debate and finger pointing will not matter! Get over it brother,seriously!
(MN: I do so want to comment. But I said I wouldn’t. So I won’t. )
April 8, 2012 at 1:06 pm |
These people and human being Preachers offer hope ,though imperfect or shady the motives may be.There are many that has risen above the depression and ignorant and come back to the church and come to strengthen their faith through the message of the word of these men.Don’t kill the message of hope because you do not like the messager! David was a whoremonger,killer,adulter and incest ran through his family .But yet a man after God’s own heart ! God’s way are not ours! Sometime he chose the imperfect and the insignificant and outcast to profound those that THINK they are wise and know his ways! We serve a good God and the message today is one of Hope and not destruction of black preachers! We will answer in Judgment for the things we say and those we offend,even the least of His chosen ones! Be very careful!
April 9, 2012 at 10:12 am |
I don’t understand how anyone could categorize the LIES and DECEPTIONS perpetrated by these folks as “mistakes”. Forgetting to take out the trash is a mistake, leaving the house without your cell phone charger is a mistake but purposefully and willfully LYING about subjects such as who God is, what God has said and what God expects of us in order to enrich yourself is not a mistake, it’s fraud. More importantly, the Bible explicitly tells us that false teachers and prophets would arise and there is no support for the notion that we should just let them because they hold a certain office or because they are doing good work in some other areas. They are to be called out loudly and repeatedly.
As to Medina Pullings, the best thing one can say about her is that she is vain and self absorbed. What else can you say about a pastor who would post 7 glamor shots of themselves on a website or charge money to go to their birthday celebration? Melvin, your reference to her a candy is apt, candy looks good, it tastes good but ultimately candy has no nutritional value, it’s just flesh pleasing empty calories…so is Medina Pullings.
April 9, 2012 at 11:02 am |
Brother, all you have revealed to me is the fate of human error and imperfection among men of God ,which we know aee there! The works that do not glorify or uplift Christ will be burn but let’s not destroy the entire message of hope for others,who have found a clear direction through these men/women works! The bible is full of flaw character.They were among the Apostles,Moses, David and the list goes one.From drunkeness,adultery to murder. Jesus ate with sinners. The stories and examples you gave indicate a place where Jesus assembled.You fail to say that he was among the outcast,thieves,murderers when he sat down in the “Untraditional Church” setting. The problem with today’s church is we are powerless because we fight the soldiers in our own army! Even the weakest linc in a chain is far greater than a linc that is broken!
We know what the bible said,at least I do.I grew up eating it but I also know the practicality side of it that has become far more greater than fighting pointless fights. Those are just Theology wars and Jesus refuse to deal with misconception and fault finding by the establish higher ups of the church of his day! If you are with him then follow him and the path will be made clear to help others that want to go the way of Jesus!
I know Preachers have failure ,both moral, ethical and socially! But I have too.I have come many times to the foot of the cross and been inspired by God’s grace and Mercy! Why not them too?
April 10, 2012 at 9:07 am |
If you honestly believe spreading false teaching, misrepresenting God and the like are a result of human error and imperfection and should therefore be overlooked then you are truly deluded.
You say that Jesus was among the outcasts, thieves and murderers when he sat down in an “untraditional church” setting (whatever that means). Really? So you just totally ignore Matthew 26:55 where Jesus states that he was in the temple DAILY? Based on your rationale wouldn’t the temple be the “traditional church” setting?
You say the Bible is full of people of God who had character flaws. And that proves what? Give me an example of one of this folks teaching, preaching or prophesying FALSELY.
Will all due respect your posts are nonsensical ramblings that have no Biblical basis at all, I can point to scripture after scripture that suppports my position specifically that when we as Christians hear false doctrine, we have a duty to call it out or do you believe that Jesus was wrong to refer to false prophets as ravenous wolves? Did Paul waste him time in 1 Timothy and 2 Timothy with the dozen plus exhortations to preach and teach only sound doctrine? Why does the Bible place such emphasis on sound doctrine and teaching if it something we should regard as only mildly important? Simple questions which I’m sure you will answer with more nonsense.
No one here is expecting preachers to be perfect we all know that is impossible but there is a huge difference between a preacher falling prey to the usual suspects (sex, money and other sins of the flesh) and claiming that Jesus committed suicide or that God is the biggest failure in the Bible. What exactly is the point of being a minister if you are going to misrepresent God? When a minister lies and says God will do thus and so but is blatantly misreprenting scripture what hope are they spreading? Hope based on a lie is not hope, it’s deception.
Melvin, I have almost reached the place where you are with this fellow. His reasoning is beyond twisted.
(MN: Don’t fret it. Tonne is one of the reasons the site is here. First, it is to expose pimps and strip them of their dignitas through humor and parody. But it is also intended to provide you kind readers with a bit of insight into the minds of the people who often make it possible for the pimps to continue to make money off of the sheep. It can be frustrating, but only if you expect to be able to win them over with the power of your logic. Only God can change the hearts of the men and women who rail against the site, against the people who support the site, and against the truth in general. But don’t give up on him. Pray for him. Pray for the folks who attend the pimps’ churches. And if that’s too general, pray for a person you know who attends a pimp’s church. )
January 6, 2013 at 2:53 pm
Many are called but few chosen
April 9, 2012 at 2:53 pm |
Tonne, You are interesting
So if the pastor lies, steals and cheats people out of their money so they can buy a jet and travel the world, it’s ok with you as long as they follow Jesus?
If the preacher said that all people born in October are going to hell You wouldn’t be concerned with it because the Man is following Jesus?
With that type of Non-theology you describe, you may have a hard time accepting Acts 17:11, Jeremiah 23: 9-32 & the entire book of Jude.
Here is another question for you NOT to answer. If theology means nothing to you when following Jesus, why even read the Bible?
May 9, 2012 at 5:30 pm |
Shame Shame Shame. Since this ministry has such a large following, why not cover them in PRAYER. Stop it.
(MN: And why is it that we can’t obey the admonition of Scripture AND pray for them? )
May 11, 2012 at 3:26 pm |
Double, are you suggesting that error should be overlooked based on the “size” of a ministry or that certain ministries are off limits for criticism because of their size?
May 22, 2012 at 6:19 pm |
MP has a sensual, hypnotizing, memerizing spirit. She accepted my FB friend request and I quickly deleted it once I got wind of her perching…or lack thereof. People gaze upon her beauty more than they are inspired by her preaching. Eye candy is what she is, even to women.
May 23, 2012 at 12:18 pm |
Dayum if you do and Dayum if you don’t. We admire and give praises to celebs and other famous people but we put down the women and men of God for success and blessed living. The church is its own worse enemy!
(MN: Tonee, MP is not displaying “blessed living.” She is exhibiting what at best could be called materialism. Do you really want to use the same standard for someone who claims to be a “woman of God” as you would for other famous people? Entertainers are known for their looks, the way they dress, who they are dating and a bunch of other trivialities. The godly person (man or woman) should be known for their holiness, their spirituality, and their consistency in their understanding and submission to the Word of God. This woman is eye candy. She has a limited understanding of Scripture (thus the reference to the Tower of Babel as a good thing). The site she has promotes her and not God. Take a look at Edith Schaeffer or a lot of other women and see how they compare to Medina, or rather see how Medina compares to them. The woman hasn’t a clue, other than how to dress. And even that, as one person pointed out, is kind of ghetto. But that is a personal shot I need not take. )
May 29, 2012 at 8:29 pm |
Hi Mel, long time no see, I really missed the site and kept bugging IC for info and stumbled back across it checking to see if it was back up. Uhhhh, do you have a mute button for Tonne?
(MN: The way it seems to be working out is I let him natter on for a several comments in any one posting. Once he has spewed enough drivel on that topic, he gets cut off from that particular thread and gets to try again in the next one. )
May 30, 2012 at 11:31 am |
Name calling and finger pointing.Typical! If they don’t agree with you then keep quiet,that’s understood.
(MN: let’s try again. When did I call you a name? And surely you understand your comments have consistently contained examples of finger pointing, including the accusation of finger pointing. )
June 22, 2012 at 1:13 pm |
It’s hard to decide which predominates Medina Pullings’ appeal – eye candy or ear candy. But, I’m settling on ear candy because people want a God who only opens doors for them and never grieves them through chastening (as He promises to do to his own) or never deprives them of anything and has all kinds of #fold blessings just around the corner (providing they tithe to the anointed prophet). All the better if the prophet rides high off donations and selling anointed products as proof of their anointing. The time will come when people will not listen to the true teaching. But people will find more and more teachers who please them. They will find teachers who say what they want to hear. 4 People will stop listening to the truth. They will begin to follow the teaching in false stories (ERV).
Just discovered this site was back up. WB.
Stan
July 25, 2012 at 2:47 pm |
LOL!!
As a (single) GUY, why would I pay any attention to anything a woman like this SAYS??
(MN: As a guy who has an understanding of Scripture, I would think you wouldn’t. Unfortunately, some guys are going to judge what she says by her babeness rather than the idiotic things she says (stuff like quoting the Tower of Bable narrative as a good thing). )
February 21, 2013 at 12:04 am |
Okay…I just read your story…but I said this on another post…it’s sort of the people’s fault as well. Preachers do all of these things because it sells and if it sells somebody is buying. If we want to stop all of this foolishness in the church, stop supporting the foolishness. But we won’t. We will send money, buy tickets to their events, like them on FB or follow them on twitter and even re-post or re-tweet their updates all the while our local Pastor can’t get any love from us….so I put a lot of blame on the people of God for making preachers feel that this is the only way to get your message out there….
April 24, 2013 at 9:57 am |
Wow, I pray that God had mercy on you! Irregardless if they (preachers) are right or wrong you still have a responsibility to obey the word. Touch NOT my anionted and do my prophets no harm. (MN: I want you to do something for me. Go find that verse and read it, in context. Then tell me who “the anointed” is. Aw, never mind. I know you’re not going to. Instead, read the following. It’s from 1 Chronicles 16.
So tell me – is he talking about the pimp pastors or is he talking about the members of the nation of Israel? How do you get from this the idea that speaking out on the heresies of some pimp pastor is the same as “doing His prophet harm?” Would a guy who preaches heresies and cheats the sheeple really be a prophet of God? )
If you feel so oooo strongly that they are fleecing Gods people them you are obligated to pray. (MN: So if you know someone who is abusing a child, you should just pray? Or if a pastor is preaching straight up heresy, you should just pray? Is that what Scripture says we should do? ) But to stand in judgment you are out of order and the word of God is against you (MN: So what did Jesus mean when He said that we should judge righteous judgment? What does that look like? WHen does it happen?<strong>). Please repent and use your God given gift and voice to promote the goodness of the Lord! (MN: Please repent and obey Scripture. Get out from under the pimps and stop letting them run rampant in your neighborhood and community. When society compltely turns against us, do you think the pimps are going to be there to comfort you? )
April 27, 2013 at 11:39 am |
The constant drumbeat of touch not mine anointed and do my prophets no harm by the supporters of these modern wolves is the pitiable case of the prey defending the predator. Reasoning alone is not sufficient to persuade these victims of their plight. They must turn from the lusts of their own hearts that led them to believe the lies of these serpents. For it is those who turn from the truth who heap to themselves teachers to scratch their itching ears, little realizing the evil seduction under which they have placed themselves.
I speak from experience. I converted to Christ in ’75. Although it was wholehearted and I began to receive the cleansing from sins promised through the Gospel, I was also nearly immediately influenced by the multitude of teachings the Charismatics specialize in – how also to get unimaginable temporal benefits by miracle.
These celebrity teachers have the secrets, proved by their clever handling of Scripture and by the numerous, yet unverified to the reader, testimonies they tout; but it will cost you a tithe or a love gift or seed to find them. When they don’t quite work out for you like they seemingly do for so many others, it’s time to sow another seed or attend their crusades or get their DVDs. The cycle never stops. The wolves get rich off their ministries — That’s the big giveaway that something is seriously wrong, for no prophet or apostle ever gained wealth from theirs – they got persecuted and killed for their service of God.
It took many years before the Lord broke me free of their grasp. Now I look back at it all in horror and disgust. Horror at how skilled they are at deceiving and disgust with myself for being so willing to seek from the Gospel what it does not explicitly promise.
When it comes to who is touching and harming God’s anointed, that accusation belongs on the heads of the wolves who prey upon God’s true anointed, the disciples of the Lord, not on those who risk ridicule, misunderstanding and condemnation for exposing them
Stan
April 27, 2013 at 12:40 pm |
Stan I am sure that those the truly love the Lord and want to serve him wholeheartedly,will arrive at the place of truth where God wants them to be.Most people that are being fooled love to be fooled because they love money and things more than God.So they serve their belly and they get fed what they like to hear.As a Christian I can spot a questionable spirit or teaching a mile off.But I don’t pull up the weed lest I hurt the wheat and those that are trying to find their way to the truth. God can handle his own business .The problem God has is getting us to handle our business and knowing the difference between who is the Father and who are the children.
April 27, 2013 at 12:46 pm |
So God doesn’t tell us to warn others About the wolves and the thieves?
Toner, I see you are still not reading your bible.
April 27, 2013 at 1:24 pm |
Tonee, You’re misapplying the parable. Pulling up the tares means to kill the heretics. People who throw touch not my anointed and do my prophets no harm at watchmen make the same mistake about what it means. Let’s be clear: No one who is critical of these wolves is seeking to harm them physically in any way. They are exposing them and their lies as they are commanded. Since Christians too often trust whom they should not trust, they are easy prey for these predators to capture them with their words. They need help from their shepherds and fellow believers who can see these things clearly.
Stan