Liturgical Flag Waving

Okay.  I was running really late for church this morning.  The wife and I were supposed to go to Sunday School but I somehow miscommunicated my intent when I decided against it.  I was unclear enough that she thought I had said we weren’t going at all.  The time got seriously short (and I forgot to buy gas last night) and before I knew it, we were leaving home around 10:55.

I really dislike getting to church late.  And since I have no responsibilities at the current church, on the way to Temple Hills Baptist Church, just before we got the exit to Martin Luther King Rd (Rt 704), I offered Pretty Peggy the one time opportunity for me to take her to First Baptist Church of Glenarden on the Kettering.  She took me up on the offer and we fought our way onto the church campus, through slow moving traffic, and into the parking lot.  I loaded Pretty Peggy into the wheelchair and rolled her into the sanctuary.

As a compliment to FBCGotK, they have special seating sprinkled throughout the sanctuary that allows a wheelchair occupant  to park and lets the companion sit right next to her.

We got there during “Praise and Worship” and a curious thing was going on.

Can any of you explain this – using the Bible?

During the entire time the congregation was singing, this young lady, and many more like her, stood waving silky purple flags and gold flags around in an artistic manner.  All I got out of it was a draft and a concern that the young lady was going to mess up and hit me in the head.  Are these like the flag waving equivalent of liturgical dancing?

I guess it’s good to be reminded of why a church organization should never have too much capital to work with.  And why they should avoid being “Seeker Friendly.”  I won’t go into my rant about there being no seekers.

7 Responses to “Liturgical Flag Waving”

  1. swordsmn Says:

    Well, you know the enemy makes people think they’re doing good when really they are so distracted and entertained that by the time the preaching starts… They very thing that’s supposed to feed their souls, they expect nothing less than pure entertainment there too. I love what one preacher used to say before his messages.. “i’m sorry if you came for entertainment.. I’m not here to entertain but to preach the gospel”. Yes! Set the tone for the people.

    • Appalled and Saddened Says:

      Yes. I agree with your comment. I wish I could find a church where the preacher knows he’s there to PREACH the WORD of GOD, and NOT to provide “entertainment.” But this is what the Emerging Church wants: entertainment, to have their itching ears tickled, opinions instead of Scripture, weak, watered down, so-called “sermons” and to be as comfortable in the “church” as they are in the world, in their personal everyday life of sin and disobedience. The greedy, lazy, no-studying of the Word, preachers are more than happy to accommodate them.

      Judges 21:25, especially 25b: In those days there was no king in Israel: every man did that which was right in his own eyes.

      Sad, but this is happening right now in so many churches. There’s a Word famine in the land. It’s all about money and entertainment.

  2. Joh Says:

    Yes we have them too. Women, girls and children. Banners on sticks, most banners hand painted pronouncing “Jesus” or picturing doves and or sunsets. Apparently the colours all have strong meaning. I`m neither here nor there about them other than I find them dangerous, windy, a distraction for the holder and a distraction for most others. Add running around with them and you find it a real safety concern. But then again, we have the musicians playing constantly when they feel the urge, often over powering a speaker. We are a tolerant church, apparently we even tolerate the errors in scripture, all of this I have brought to the attention of the males and females on our board (we don`t have Elders, just a board which the Pastor chooses) to no avail. Ahh, a modern Australian Baptist church.

  3. Saddened and Appalled Says:

    I’ve read your posts regarding this particular group posing as a church so I know that you did not go there expecting to be a part of a REAL worship experience or to get the true Word of God. I refrain from going to churches that “carry on” like that, trying to please everybody but God. This kind of ungodly “mess” is becoming more and more popular for the past few years, and now, even in churches that never did “stuff” like that. And most of the time in these “entertainment” or Comedy Zone” worldly kinds of “churches”, the sermon or whatever they want to call it—if one could place a price tag on it, the entire shenanigans would be worth far less than 2 cents.

    Pulpits have become a stage where the “pastor” is just entertaining, using laptops instead of the Bible, parroting a “sermon” they pulled from the Internet, rehashing it, and have sunk to the level of trying to please the worldly people who are in attendance in their audience (“audience”—not “congregation”). But saddest of all, there now is a serious Word famine in the land, just as Amos prophesied YEARS ago (Amos 8:11-12):

    11 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord God,
    that I will send a famine in the land,
    not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water,
    but of hearing the words of the Lord:
    12 and they shall wander from sea to sea,
    and from the north even to the east,
    they shall run to and fro to seek the word of the Lord,
    and shall not find it.

    The Word famine is real. Verse 12 describes me personally.

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  5. gee Says:

    I am new to your blog and was just wondering if you were once a member of this church and what went wrong? I reading some of your previous postings I noticed that you spoke of this church in a negative manner….what was your exprerience? Do you know this pastor personally? I will eventually read all your entries, I just thought I would just ask.

    (MN: Yes, at one time I was a member of First Baptist Church of Glenarden on the Kettering before they moved to the Kettering). And yes, I knew him fairly well. That is one of the reasons why, when he began preaching that Jesus suffered in hell for our sins and not on the cross, and I discussed it with him for over three months, I decided I needed to leave. Something that didn’t help was his refusal (contrary to his sermons) to counsel my wife to leave with me. He said he would counsel her to do so if I apologized.

    But please be aware, I am trying to make sure the blog doesn’t simply focus on him. Yes, by his actions and words he has shown himself to be a pimp and a big dog wannabee, but he really is no worse than the others. )

  6. swordsmn Says:

    It’s a good thing you left after only 3 months. I, unfortunately called myself trying to help someone that didn’t want help for 8 years. I also tried to talk to my former Pastor about the error of his ways. In my case he was doing very slick deceptive things rather than preaching blatant heresy. It was like trying to catch a slippery frog.

    Not only that he had help from other ministers keeping his false persona of a holy man pristine. I was also an associate minister, so my life was really difficult. My leaving I felt would have caused another split in our group. He tried to destroy my reputation to ruin my credibility. The thing was, some of the ministers knew what I was talking about, but they were too afraid to say anything. Finally God got me out of there with my reputation in tact and he couldn’t touch me. Hallelujah!

    Eventually, as more and more of his ways began to show, and those ministers continued to support him like he could do no wrong, other people left as well. Thank God for your blog.. keep up the good work! So many false preachers are going to straight to hell and they might as well be going there in style rather than preying off people’s dreams of going to heaven.

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