Waving a Flag of Caution

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The older I get, the easier it is to see why God gave us the Bible and instructed us to use it as our final guide and authority. Of course, not everyone sees it that way. And they are certainly the worse off for it.

God tells us we are engaged in a spiritual war (2 Cor 10:4,5). In that same reference, He makes it clear that our weapons in this warfare are not carnal (not made of physical stuff) but are mighty through God.

Before I get fully into my rant, I want to be fair to First Baptist Church of Glenarden on the Kettering (FBCGotK) and point out that even though they are involved in flagging (I reposted the video below), I will not say they agree with all of the teachings on the sites I visited. The head of the Flag and Banner Ministry did say: “Our number one reason is to usher in the presence of our Lord…Audience of one. Him and him alone.” And while this is consistent with the sites I visited, she doesn’t commit to the full set of heresies and make-believe theology.

The flaggers say the following about flag waving:

  1. It ushers in the presence of God
  2. It is a sword used in spiritual warfare
  3. Help focus our faith
  4. It is spiritual warfare by movements, actions, sounds, and colors.
  5. It brings anointing (whatever, in this context, that is)
  6. Destroys the works of the devil.

However, the Bible tells us the the weapons include:

  1. Truth
  2. The Shield of Faith
  3. The Gospel
  4. The Bible (the real Sword of the Spirit)
  5. Righteousness

We are told to renew our minds with the Word, not renew our subscription for the prophetic flag of the month.

I can’t think of a better way to neutralize an army than to send it into battle with defective or ineffective equipment.

Think about it. What if the Allies soldiers had been given Nerf bats and balls to go up against the Axis (Germany, Japan, and Italy) who were armed with real weapons. Do you think the Allies would have been able to stand against the German onslaught?

No. At worst the Allied armies would have been destroyed. At best, they would all have been taken out of the battle and housed in Prisoner of War camps for the duration of the conflict – which, by the way, wouldn’t have been that long.

Those people promoting flagging and those who push it at their churches are equipping the saints with Nerf bats and balls, condemning them to the sidelines when it comes to the warfare in which we are engaged.

These people see flags as having the ability to “usher in the presence of God.” So let me understand this. When we wave flags, God is present among us? Do you understand how this trivializes God? He’s like a genie in a lamp. Rub the lamp the genie pops out. Wave the flag, God drops in.

Flaggers see flags and banners as the Sword of the Spirit. Really? So instead of arming themselves with the real Sword of the Spirit, the Bible, they are coming to church and waving flags around. Instead of reading their Bibles, meditating on Scripture, hiding God’s word in their hearts, and conforming their minds to Scripture so they can better use it for God’s glory, they are waving around of bunch of silk flags? Satan must be shaking in his cloven-toed boots when they get together.

Along with the flags, they see movements, actions, sounds, and colors as a way of waging war. Again, Satan must be scared to death every time he walks into one of the flag waving “worship” sessions. Jesus instructed us to worship God in spirit and in truth, not with flags and dancing. He said that the Father’s word is truth, not a Lion of Judah Prophetic flag.

You have to ask yourself how these people can really believe that flag waving destroys the works of the devil. According to Scripture, the thief (Satan) comes only to steal, kill, and destroy. Those are his works. Jesus came so that we can have abundant life. What has destroyed the work of Satan? Nothing. But what has placed us in Christ, never to be subject to the Accuser? Christ’s death on the cross.

Some of the sites claim that flags put forth the Gospel. Huh? I thought the Gospel comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God.

If your pastor is dumb enough to bring in flagging, you need to get the heck out of Dodge. If your pastor isn’t dumb, then he (or, a lot of times she) thinks you are too dumb to know any better. And in either case, you need to get the heck out of

Dodge.

Am I saying there is anything wrong with the physical action of waving a flag? Certainly not. It’s just the physical waving of a flag. My difficulty, and the Bible’s difficulty, is the significance people ascribe to flag waving.

Remember, the Bible says:

For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God for the pulling down of stronghold; destroying imaginations and every high thought that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ(2 Cor 10:4,5)

It doesn’t say:

For the weapons of our warfare are physical and made of prophetic colors and images, and mighty through waving and displaying, pulling down strongholds and ushering in the presence of God and His atmosphere.

Dump the flags and banners, read your Bible, hide God’s word in your heart (Ps 119:9; 11;105), and walk by faith (2 Cor 5:7), not sight. And pray for wisdom (James , trusting God to meet your needs.

Hey, you could even save a couple of bucks in supplies.

9 Responses to “Waving a Flag of Caution”

  1. atb615 Says:

    Amen!

  2. Appalled & Saddened Says:

    And AMEN! AGAIN!

  3. Ready4Change Says:

    Mel,

    Spot on with your assessments.

    On a much more practical level, I couldn’t help but to notice this particular statement in your original liturgical flag waving post:

    “All I got out of it was a draft and a concern that the young lady was going to mess up and hit me in the head.”

    This in mind, there has to be some safety concerns, both for the one waiving the flag and those in the pews nearby. Depending on the person, if the church has not taken the necessary actions to free themselves from liability, then their wrestling will be against principalities and legalities, and the weapons of their warfare will be lawyers and court fees.

    SDG,

    R4C

  4. stannj51 Says:

    Flag/banner waving and its dangerous doctrine of demon chasing as well as the preposterous notion it ushers in God’s presence was one of the factors that led to my leaving my former church nearly 9 years ago. It’s a lucrative stream for purveyors of charismania superstitions. If that wasn’t bad enough, you ought to hear it when banners’ noisy cousins, shofars (ram’s horns, another expensive artifact of this strange industry), go off in not-too-large sanctuaries like ours was (50’x75′). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WrQjq97NSc

    Stan

    • Kay Chap Says:

      Mel, I have followed and thoroughly enjoyed your blog for a few years now. I ditto the post by stannj51. I have hearing disorders, namely tinnitus and hyperacusis. As you probably already know, tinnitus is ringing in the ears, but hyperacusis is sensitivity to sound/tones/noises. I used to attend a local church and left when I suspected corruption. Before I left, the moron brother of the so-called pastor blew a shofar without warning and I almost threw up being nauseated by the incredible loud shrill due to my hyperacusis. And, it almost blew out the hearing aids of a deaf guy sitting in the front row. If this were a factory OSHA would cite them! Some sheeple think it’s cute to go around blowing a shofar and have no consideration for others. I could go on and on about the idiocy of others, but they won’t change. Thanks Mel for a chance to “sound off”.

      (MN: You are quite welcomed. People should know that they are not alone when they think something is foolish. Your sounding off let’s them know exactly that. )

  5. tima Says:

    I usually agree with the majority of your observations. This one how ever I have to say no to. I dance and wave flags. In the bible there are many instances of dancing the first reference is Miriam in Exodus 15:20. She led a victory dance after crossing the red sea There are other instances of dancing in the bible,Judges 11:34 Then Jephthah came to his home at Mizpah. And behold, his daughter came out to meet him with tambourines and with dances. She was his only child; besides her he had neither son nor daughter Luke 15:25 The return of the prodigal son included singing and dancing…a shadow type of how Christ receives us when we receive salvation….” 2 Chronicles 20:21-22 21 After consulting the people, Jehoshaphat appointed men to sing to the Lord and to praise him for the splendor of his[c] holiness as they went out at the head of the army, saying:“Give thanks to the Lord,
    for his love endures forever.”22 As they began to sing and praise, the Lord set ambushes against the men of Ammon and Moab and Mount Seir who were invading Judah, and they were defeated….As we Praise the Lord which is why he created us…He moves on our behalf… Giving thanks is lively and expressive
    Lets not forget to mention that dancing and celebration was and still is a traditional before Christ was born.In ancient Jewish culture it was normal to dance and celebrate God. Jesus most likely participated in dance as well. When we wave flags we are celebrating and lifting a banner of praise and worship. There is nothing wrong with it.Flags represent banners, or a rally point a place people can identify with, a safe place a place that represents assured victory The principle comes from this …. the Bible says that God is Jehovah Nissi the Lord our banner. Exodus 15:17 Moses built an Alter after a victory that God led the way in During the early churches time there was liturgical dance, but because of misuse it was banned. this is way dance is not received in the church a lot of people dismissed it as being vain and biblical was is far form the truth. God never intended for us to sit down and watch worship and Praise. The Bible says let every thing that have breath praise the Lord…Psalms 150:6 The bible also says in Psalms 149;3 Let them praise his name in the dance, let them sing praises unto him with the timbrel and harp. What you see in the church is biblical and beautiful when its done IN ORDER. I will agree that some people have taken what we do and have tried to make a whole doctrine out of it, this is wrong. What we do in the arts is express our love for God in a creative fashion…it comes from our intimate relationship with God. Here is the last thing, we can not just dance in the church, we ought to dance because we study the word of God and understand that yes it is the word of God that brings change not our dance. We dance because we are students of the word of God and we live a life that shows this. When we dance people should see Christ, that is our Goal. We dance in the spirit of Isaiah 61 We seek to show this creatively just as singers sing, we dance. Excuse any typo’s Pray this sheds a little light. It breaks my heart when people what we so and poke at it. Those that dance according to how it is supposed to be, study the word and are minsters of the word FIRST before we dance because with out it we are just entertaining people and that is not our desire at all.
    Tima

  6. Tim Says:

    Just doing a study on this and some researching. There is a ton of info all over the internet. However, 95% of it is posted by “Flaggers” and is nothing but “Amen-ing” each other. Glad to see this one and its common sense Biblical application.

    We are incorporating New-Age and Eastern religion into Christianity and have completely lost the perspective of how to fight in the spiritual realm (I love your mockery of the devil shaking in his boots over this nonsense.)

    Also, I have to think that some of this is a strategy AGAINST evangelism. The average un-churched sinner comes into your church and sees this, you are going to ‘freak’ them out and they will run for their lives! They are not looking for an emotional experience, they are looking for real answers to real problems! READ THE WORD AND PREACH THE WORD!

  7. Annomous Says:

    I agree with Tim: study the Word!

  8. Annomous Says:

    To Tim i would say as a worship dancer: Tim we do use biblical application (MN: Actually, you don’t, not if you use the usual verses to support the activities. In fact, I provided several quotes from several sources (including the flag lady at FBCGotK, pastored by John K. Jenkins Sr. None of the “applications” had anything to do with the verses referred to. Colors to set Satan fleeing? Really? ) and do read the Word. Do some more searching and researching in the Bible about dance. Happy reading!

    (MN: After doing a great deal of research in the bible, I don’t see where flags and dancing are used in the New Testament as a part of worship. Maybe you can show that New Testament reference to me.)

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